Am I SELFISH for going NO CONTACT?
LONDON ENGLAND WORKSHOPS:
September 5-7, 2024
NORTH CAROLINA RETREAT
November 1-3, 2024
ORDER MY NYT BESTSELLING BOOK 📖 "IT'S NOT YOU"
JOIN MY HEALING PROGRAM
JOIN THE DR. RAMANI NETWORK
GET INFO ABOUT MY UPCOMING PROGRAM FOR THERAPISTS
SIGN UP FOR MY MAILING LIST
LISTEN TO MY NEW PODCAST "NAVIGATING NARCISSISM"
Apple Podcasts:
Spotify:
Stitcher:
iHeart Radio:
DISCLAIMER: THIS INFORMATION IS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A SUBSTITUTE FOR CLINICAL CARE. PLEASE CONSULT A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR GUIDANCE SPECIFIC TO YOUR CASE. THIS VIDEO DISCUSSES NARCISSISM IN GENERAL.
THE VIDEO DOES NOT REFER TO ANY SPECIFIC PERSON, AND SHOULD NOT BE USED TO REFER TO ANY SPECIFIC PERSON, AS HAVING NARCISSISM. PERMISSION IS NOT GRANTED TO LINK TO OR REPOST THIS VIDEO, ESPECIALLY TO SUPPORT AN ALLEGATION THAT THE MAKERS OF THIS VIDEO BELIEVE, OR SUPPORT A CLAIM, THAT A SPECIFIC PERSON IS A NARCISSIST. THAT WOULD BE AN UNAUTHORIZED MISUSE OF THE VIDEO AND THE INFORMATION FEATURED IN IT.
You’re not selfish for going no contact. You must protect and preserve yourself. The narcissist will continue harming you until you have nothing left to give.
I’m going through crazy hoovering by my narc family and they’re even using an abusive ex to try and hoover me. Thanks for this reminder.
Exactly…self care is not selfish.
And even if you go on no contact they will attack you through other people.
I agree and narcs want their victims to feel remorseful and guilty for cutting ties with them, especially when family members are involved
@@lilianfowler7988that’s their next step. They use others to act on their behalf. It’s never ending.
NO. You are NOT selfish for going no contact with toxic people whether their family or not. your mental health and overall wellbeing matters most. Them saying its selfish and manipulative are just using a manipulation tactic to keep you attached. Saying no to äbusë is the most sane, healthy way forward.
@pinkmeadows You’re right. Well said. No contact whether they’re family or not
Dr. Can u cover the adult child who withholds the grandchild? I’ve been silent to protect myself. Weapon is clear. What now? Please talk about this. Please
@@JoanCohrs My daughter just had her first baby. Already was told to leave my daughter alone months ago. Never attended her wedding prior she hung up on me. Living with other parents that don’t speak to their children either. Crazy world.
It’s gaslighting and abuse
Yes. They are self-centered and manipulative with an agenda
No contact with my family- it’s been several years. The best thing I ever did.
I went no contact almost 10 years and it has been hard! I am the black sheep now. I think the narcissist blames me for everything. I’m the scapegoat. My sister goes back & forth and minimizes the pain and abuse. She keeps telling me, “well, I just choose to forgive. You live in the past.” I just can’t take the pain. I find myself longing for accountability for the narcissist (my stepmother of over 60 years). She took so much from me. I just get tired. I’m working on my spiritual life (it’s all I really have).
The answer is “You’re right..i DO live in the past. That’s the CPTSD trauma I am suffering you are obviously not…now stop being selfish yourself.”
Sorry to say it but your sister wants to pull you back into it. Can’t she just let it go? Is she who’s living in the past.
“I choose to forgive you just live inthe past” literally my sister. I’m sorry my friend. You’re strong and doingwhats best for you ❤
I am told the same things. “You hold grudges” “I choose to live my life” “life is too short to think about (insert hurts here)” as if all I do is wallow in self pity and anger 24/7. The sad part is that I’m starting to realize the WHOLE FAMILY is gaslighting me together and maybe it would be best to cut them all out. But it’s hard with one family member who I have always been close with but who says things like this.
You have power to walk away, dignity to love yourself enough to leave abuse, integrity to move forward and demand respect.No one will ever disrespect you again!!!
F that. Absolutely right. Unless you’ve walked in my shoes, move on.
I’ve received more advice from people who haven’t walked an inch down this road, much less a mile. You don’t know unless you’ve lived it. Period.
I’ve been told the same. It’s easy to say “get over it” when you’re not the victim. It’s easy to defend abuse when you’re not the victim, also.
The SAME bystanders who defend abuse verbally or with silence are the same ones who demand protection when THEY go through hardship. If you don’t give the same support they withheld, it’s considered “petty revenge” or “tit for tat.”
Those who show the least compassion demand it the most from others. The hypocrisy and entitlement are staggering!
@@SnailMail-y3nTHANKYOU
I grew up with an entitled younger sibling that got away with EVERYTHING! As the cliche goes “the baby of the family is the golden child, that a mom will go easiest on.”
He was evil enough to take advantage of that so he could treat me however he wanted. Just because I lived with him did NOT mean I owed him things. He’s the youngest. So he has NO idea how it feels to be the oldest one dealing with the golden child. So he shouldn’t be talking! He acts like he’s the one who’s the victim. Yah because you got away with everything yet YOURE the victim? No…
@@SnailMail-y3nnothings more annoying than dealing with ppl (especially siblings) who haven’t been in your shoes and still act like they know everything…
@@julianhudson9341you’re last paragraph describes the toxic narc younger sibling I grew up with
I went no contact after a lifetime of abuse, disrespect and invalidation. My eyes finally opened at age 50 in 2021. I realized I had to save myself. It’s been painful, yet liberating.
Same. My narcissistic dad & enabler mom taught me that I was the problem/the misfit and that “thinking about myself” was selfish & stuck up. So, of course, I should sacrifice my marriage & my relationship with my husband & my son. . . just so I can “take care of him” like mom did until she died from metastatic breast cancer. He just wanted a replacement.😑
Me too, at age 50. Better late than never ❤
Same, I was 40 and having young kids myself is what gave me the push I needed
I also went low contact and now no contact in 2021 at the age of 50. It was very sad, but now I’m OK as I have peace in my life and I don’t feel so horrible about myself.
@@paulamackay5259 me too Paula ❤️
I went no contact with my mother about a year ago and my sister 6 years ago. Both narcs.I needed therapy following the decision regarding my mum due to feelings of guilt and shame however I can now honestly say my mental health this year has never been better. My mum still tries to reach out now and again with a level of manipulation and I can now see it for what it is. I don’t respond. I now feel indifferent and my life has never been so peaceful. Thank you, you helped me see the light and break the cycle ❤
As for people who make you feel guilty about this decision do not understand familial abuse and that’s ok, it’s not their life it’s yours. Being at peace is more important than giving others an explanation x
Similar here. One of the biggest challenges is the circle of other family, as well as common friends, who feel it’s their never-ending duty to help create a reconciliation.
@@sdaiwepmI feel your pain ❤️ therapy helped me navigate the flying monkeys but it did nearly break me. They do let up eventually keep strong.
I just wrote your last sentence for future reference in the back of Dr. Ramanis book!
Went no contact with two brothers last year. Have to avoid others interpretations of my action.
@@sdaiwepmthose unsupportive of NC “family and friends “ have got their heads too far up into hallmark movies…
@@bonniejalsevac7946 it’s draining keeping a distance and trying to keep some dignity, what sentence and what book I’d love to read it. This is where I found my sanity ❤️
I don’t feel selfish at all. I went no contact with my birth family and those defending them verbally or with silence. I did not suddenly decide to shun them. It took years to get to that point.
For years, I tried to make peace with them even after I was grown and moved out. They even had the nerve to say it’s “All in the past.” But they knew THEN what they did, so that’s no excuse. The silent partners (SP) who chose to “mind their business” instead of defending me, but attacked me after the fact for defending myself had the same behavior and excuses.
My birth family and SP all accuse me of holding a grudge for not forgiving them freely for abuse. They pissed on EVERY chance I gave them. I owe no one repeated chances to hurt me. Not personal or business. I have NO regrets! 💯
Well said! I totally agree with you.
It took me many years to realise that narcissism which started with both parents would leach and invade my syblings and turn them against me as well. I left home at 18…my syblings never did. Took me forever to realise this birth family could not receive or give love. Non contact is my saving grace.
We have the same story
They’re quick to use the phrase that victims hold grudges. They do this to take the focus off what they’ve done and make their victims feel guilty
They use phrases like that to avoid accountability while trying to punish victims for setting boundaries. They want you to feel guilty for saying NO to them. When they hurt you, it’s “All in the past.” But when they do you a favor, it’s “After all I’ve done for you.”
They defend the behavior, but not the reaction that THEY caused. They’re willfully blind and too proud to admit it. They insist on being hard-headed.
Going no contact was the one of the best things I’ve done as an adult.
They can keep their dysfunctional views and approaches to relationships to themselves.
“Good therapists understand no contact” not easy decision. Thank you for validating Doctor Ramani. Interim healing.
I went no contact after a long time of trying. Endless misery with these people, that always ended up moving me down (mentally, financially, health, socially, etc.). At some point, a person has to evaluate the value. There’s a huge world of people. Move on if family feels you’re not worthy of them.
Going No Contact is a beautiful affirmation of your natural right to protect yourself.
What’s beautiful about walking away from everything you don’t like? In the end, you’ll be utterly alone.
@@AbuMohandes-p2c and your point is???
@@AbuMohandes-p2cNot about that at all. A lifetime of worsening abuse is left behind, not one lil bitty minor slight.
@@AbuMohandes-p2c maybe I will know peace, finally.
Maybe I will learn who I am, not who they want me to be .
Maybe I will be teaching bigots and fascists that their views are not merely “political” but are trying to harm people I love. And I’m not going to tolerate bigotry for the sake of their comfort.
@@AbuMohandes-p2c why are you here?
I went no contact after DECADES of abuse, toxicity and trauma that took a toll on my mental and physical health. I had 2 suicide attempts (at 10 and 12 years old). I developed severe bruxism (result of repressed negative emotions), skin rashes (result of high stress and constant high level of cortisol) social anxiety, insomnia, trust issues. Through these decades I’ve been relentlessly trying to be better, to live up to their expectations, to forgive, to get over it… until one day it dawned on me: they will never change. Nothing of what I’ll ever do, or say, or be – will ever be enough for them. I did forgive them. But I will never allow them to trample on my soul again.
🤗
You have so succinctly described my experience! At 66 I finally went no contact with my sibling. Now THIS is what it is to be reborn!
@@lepi4san the stress goes through every cell in your body and can be so harmful. Glad you got away from them. Please take care of yourself.
Very happy to hear you’ve gone NC!…
You are worth it….😊
No contact is a painful last resort.
It’s the only resort.
And, very often a necessary one…
@@mancdec Yes it is. The narcissist can’t and won’t understand this decision
I didn’t go no-contact with my mother to teach her a lesson, I went no-contact because I finally learned my lesson.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Well said!!!
Nice 🎉🎉
Yes yes
Well said… me too!
I remember one time my mother said I was so selfish…I only thought of myself.
My reply was Who else was going to think about me? I have to be selfish because I care about me…no one else does.
Its also projection because she only cares about herself. Hate never comes from above. That’s abuse to make you question yourself and stop caring for yourself. I fell in that hole for 10 years and fell apart mentally and physically. Not worth it. You can’t love people so much to where you sacrifice yourself. It hurts you both.
My sanity is more important than societal norms.
💯✔🎯🙌
I am a 70-year-old man. You are completely correct when you say the issues are complex and going NC is a decision that is most likely made over a long period of time. I left my parents’ home when I was 19 years old. After that, I put myself through four years of college, had gainful employment and owned a few small businesses. I also bought houses, etc., and can be regarded as successful in my adulthood. My Father was an alcoholic and Narcissist who felt the need to tell me how much better he was than I. He was also verbally and physically abusive. Once he hit me so hard in the face that he gave me a bloody nose. My Mother is a religious fanatic and uses that to abuse people. My Father is deceased, but I decided to go NC with my Mother and Sister over 10 years ago. Their anger and abuse just never stopped. On three separate occasions, my Mother said we ‘should go our separate ways’ when I declined to meet her various demands. I finally accepted her offer. As you said, doing so makes life easier, but it still hurts…..
@@gared287 I would rather be here on this earth with my two dogs,enjoying life with love and gratitude.Made the decision to go no contact and be kind and loving to the people I choose to share my love with. These narcissistic people do not deserve loving empaths in their cruel and angry world. Remember the abuse shortens your life.
Wow, Gared. I am a 59 y.o. woman, and we have lived the exact same life!! Uncanny. You literally described my family to the T. Good luck to you, sir. May we enjoy the rest of our lives in peace, finally.
You are wise and had courage😊 Most of us it takes years to go NC
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really loved him so much I can’t stop thinking about him, I’ve tried my very best to get him back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of him, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss him and just can’t stop thinking about him
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let him go i did all i could to get him back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring him back.
Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach him?
His name is Father Obah Eze, and he is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.
he is father obah eze, he has great powers, he can help you.
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked him up now online. impressive