The MAJOR difference between TOXIC and NARCISSISTIC relationships
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Toxic relationships are harmful because itโs all just about one person. Itโs all about their selfish interests at your sacrifice and expense.
Being around toxic people might be annoying, but narcissists take it to another level,they mess with your mind and make you doubt yourself.
They sure do! They love the sound of their own voice and think the world owes them.
True but so does a thief who isnโt a narcissist!
Spot on, its defo another level of abuse, and itโs insidious and unhealthy!
@ flying monkeys ๐ come to mind.
Im actually thinking mi is a malignant…..I thought he was a covert… but the hurt and damage he has caused……definitely cruel
Im LOVING the longer more elaborate videos! Thank you Dr. Ramani for all your workโค
Dr. Ramani strikes again! Thanks for posting
My wife tells me: โI know I made inappropriate comments but I promise I wasnโt trying to be mean.โ Also โyou know how hard it is for me to apologize?! I wish you would just sense that I am sorry.โ
Not even sure what to say to thatโฆ I just remember Dr. Ramani saying use the DEEP method because there is no point of trying explain why both of the statements above are horrible and there is no accountability.
Remember the 3 reasons to leave ASAP: emotional &/or physical abuse, lying & denying
Thank you for clarifying this. The internet is teeming with people calling everyone else a narcissist. They often donโt bother to look inward to see their own toxic behaviors.
Exactly, being raised by a psychopath I had narcissistic learned behaviors. After studying narcissism I noticed sometimes what came out of my mouth wasnโt me and it was extremely inappropriate! The good thing I have learned to grow. Not saying if I get around a narcissist I may give em a bit of their own medicine and run like a bear is gonna chase me-
Iโve seen several questionable women claim their ex was a narcissist and thatโs why they broke up. But these women often wonโt explain what the ex boyfriend/husband did wrong that show he was a narcissist. I feel that word has often been used casually without knowing what it really means.
The major difference is one (TOXIC) is poisonous and the other one (NARCISSISTIC) is venomous.
Venom is not poison ?
If you bite it and you die, it’s poison. If it bites you and you die, it’s venom. Poison is something you have to eat or inhale. Venom is delivered directly into your bloodstream.
Poison is something you have to eat or inhale. Venom is delivered directly into your bloodstream, which is worse.
One is eaten or inhaled and the other is injected directly into the bloodstream and that’s worse.
โ@@shreyaindia4024I think venom means born evil predators and poisoning means toxic pattern in psychological damaged people
“…and every other kind of ‘IST’ you can think of…” Dr. Ramani knows how to express a thought in such a precise, relatable way. She’s a master in the area of effective communication. Thank you, Dr. Ramani!๐โค
Many of my ex-friends were toxic, but some of them were narcissistic.
Wow that’s unlucky ๐
Thank you for this, Dr Ramani! There is a huge distinction between a toxic person and a narcissist. Just because we don’t like being around someone because their behavior bothers us, doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a narcissist. The term “narcissist” has a particular meaning, and it is a word that is thrown around alot casually these days, by those who don’t truly understand what it is. It does a disservice to those of us whose lives have been shattered by a narcissist!
Exactly!
Toxicity is indeed very subjective due to your background, your own experiences in the past.
Narcissism is objective due to the build-in-patterns, the needed ingredients.
Whether it’s toxic or Narcissism, listen to your gut!!!
You’re spot on ๐ฏ ๐ ๐
I agree! I don’t care what the label is! LOL
@@amandaliverpool3374 Thanks, Amanda ๐๐๐ซ
@@twovirginiacats3753 In fact, no one wants to be labeled!
@@amandaliverpool3374 Thanks, Amanda ๐๐๐ซ
I think two big โtestsโ as to figuring out if a person is toxic or a narcissist, is the ability to introspect and experience remorse. Even the most toxic of people have at least a little shred of these traits. They might be stingy with their expression, but they are present. A narcissist, however, does not possess these traits and truly cannot comprehend the impact they have on other people. They ALWAYS have a justification for their behaviour and therefore do not ever experience true remorse.
The real thing is, It’s very hard to tell if someone feels truly remorse or they are just pretending
All narcissists are toxic people. Not all toxic people are narcissists. I sometimes use the word toxic to describe narcissistic people because I feel like writing one short quick word “toxic”. It takes more than 11 toxic traits to diagnose a toxic person as a narcissist. Love this much needed video. Love the part you mention about pay attention to how you feel, you can feel a bit uncomfortable and annoyed by toxic people. While you’d feel confuse, self doubt, self shame, self sacrifice, feeling extreme anger, feeling rage, feeling gaslighted, feeling the strong sense of creep out, there is this gut wrenching feeling with any narcissists and psychopaths because they are very twisted, delusional, and very manipulative. The gut instinct knows.
Exactly toxic people may be bad and annoying but narcissist ones are pure evil scheming and manipulative creatures
Please do a video on recognizing between old age and narcissism. โค๐
Old people seem so narcissistic to me lately… They have so many needs, and they behave so selfishly at the workplace. And they don’t seem humble, just expecting to be listened to and be helped without having good manners or even being honestly polite.
I want to live a long life. And I want to avoid becoming this “elderly narcissist” type I’ve seen at my job.
That is an interesting observation. I think as people get older, they get bolder and have less of a filter in regard to what they say sometimes. Some have less kindness and diplomacy. Others seem to be a better version of themselves as they get older.
@twovirginiacats3753ย I understand what you are saying (I think), but that’s not what I said.
I am referring to people who “expect” a certain treatment from others: entitlement.
Being old doesn’t make you an automatic receiver of respect and conversation. You still have to be respectful to other people.
I can deal with harsh truth, I can deal with directness or boldness. But this is plain disregard of the duties of others or their personal preferences…
@@artifundio1 Entitlement is never good. I hear ya.
“Toxic for ME”!!!
Thank you for posting this particular topic!!!!!!
People doesn’t understand that other people have different options, raise their voices, and don’t let others talk. That’s also toxic. Thanks for sharing ๐ blessings and peace to everyone
Now that the term is widely known, I often hear people call someone a “narcissist” just because that someone might be disagreeable or have strong personal boundaries. Completely misused.
In my experience, Iโve found that people who engage in toxic behaviors are capable of dialog about their behavior, and self-reflection, and learning, in ways that are impossible for a narcissist.
And they are better at accepting boundaries when you need to set them in order to keep engaging with them. A narcissist is incapable of respecting the boundaries of others, is angered by them, and sometimes derives pleasure from violating them.
One of my best friends has OCD. Sometimes his behavior is toxic. He is self-aware (narcissists arenโt) and he has the capacity to listen to feedback constructively (narcissists donโt). He does not have the capacity to completely rein in the toxic behavior. Heโs working with the brain he has, not the brain he wishes he had. And when he is in the weeds, I limit my time around him and check in from a distance, because I am a narcissistic abuse survivor.
Because of my life experiences (and with the help of quality therapy) I can clearly see the difference.
It is worth learning to work around the behavior of my sometimes toxic friend. It is not worth trying to do the same with a narcissist.
You are such a treasure. Iโm coparenting with a malignant sort and most people just hear me describing a toxic person. But to be their target, and to endure relentless bullying is so hard to convey. So thank you for sharing your knowledge and understanding. ๐๐ฅณ