The Most Accurate Movie About Vulnerable Narcissism I’ve Ever Seen

A Real Pain might be one of the most spot-on portrayals of vulnerable narcissism I’ve ever seen—capturing the charm, the chaos, the heartbreak, and the impossible push-pull of it all. This film left me thinking about the way we rationalize, forgive, and get tangled up in these dynamics. Let’s break it down – because this one is worth talking about.

Andrew McLaurin
 

  • @LittleV33 says:

    I’ll keep saying it. Narcs need you WAY more then you need them period. I said what I said.

  • @reneemorgan3144 says:

    I grew up with a vulnerable/covert narcissistic mother. It took me over 50 yrs to go total no contact with her. It was the worst grief I have ever felt in my life. It was also the very best thing I could have done to have a life of my own and learn to love myself 💜💔❤️

    • @susannapapay5701 says:

      @@reneemorgan3144 my mother was exactly the same. She ruled my life from birth. I didn’t realize that I could be my own person till my mother passed away 2 years ago at 90 and I was 67 at the time. I didn’t know that I can be so relaxed and comfortable now. Instead of sitting on the edge of my seat, waiting for her phone calls all day long, I sit here relaxed and being myself. I didn’t shed a tear for my mother when she passed, I felt relief.

    • @berenicedagamarose8263 says:

      Same. 43 years. I feel you. ❤

    • @lorra222 says:

      Hi when you say it was the worst grief I don’t understand because my mother says the most horrible things and treats me so bad there is no grief there because the way she treated me all my life until this very day so in what way was it grief this is a real question can you please tell me because I don’t understand thank you

    • @suewhosews6546 says:

      I am 59 and have been separating from my vulnerable narcissist mother since I was 43. For me it has been a long process of seeing and accepting her manipulative ways. I would default to I must be overly sensitive, I must be misunderstanding, she’s a victim and so how can I say she is at fault etc etc. I was committed to being a good daughter and redeeming her life of pain and hardship, I was very enmeshed with her, calling each other many times a day… if she was up I was relaxed and ok to focus on my daily life family etc, if she became upset or down or frustrated with my stepfather then I would be upset and frustrated for her. This was a coping mechanism from childhood, My lifeline and caregiver had to be stable and ok for me to be ok. I shut down my feelings because there wasn’t any room for them. Hers took precedence in the family. As an adult, slowly learning and separating from her for 15 years, increasingly seeing her manipulations, her blame and her victim stance, I began to realize I am not truly an important separate individual in her mind. To her, I exist only to meet certain emotional and self esteem needs of hers. Two weeks ago I suspected she was manipulating me into something I had said for months I would not do. The day I found out I was indeed correct, she was lying to me and using someone else to do her bidding to trick me into being someplace that would serve only her needs, when she very well knew I had said no. I saw in that moment so utterly clearly that I was nothing to be respected. It was only all about her wants and her feelings. I felt a great sense of justification for truly limiting my interactions with her. No guilt, just clarity that any continuing energy spent on her was worth nothing. The grief that began a few days after that was very painful. Grief that she really truly had no respect for me as an individual or any preciousness for being her daughter. The mother I thought was a victim was a perpetrator, a self consumed conniving, using, manipulator. I had to grieve all of my childhood which now appeared like one long grooming session to be her emotional human prozac. I love my mom and spent years thinking I mattered as a daughter and believed she loved me. The grief is about loss of the hope I could do enough and she would grow in mental health and strength if I said the right things or helped in the right ways. She doesn’t want to grow! She just wants my continuous support and cheer leading and attention. To grow would mean standing in her own two feet and being responsible for herself. The grief is for never will I ever have a mother. Grief over how many decisions I made with her as the priority instead of myself or my spouse or my family. Shame over that!!! I am sad to distance myself knowing she will feel badly, but that she also will punish me for it. There is no having any kind of a relationship with her where I am not used and invisible. Huge gut wrenching realization!!!!! Grief from letting her go releasing her to her earned consequences. This is a long response, all to say I understand your grief at going no contact. And hope to explain it as well. I grieve the person I thought she was. I celebrate being liberated from the guilt of having a boundary that tells her no. I will never make a decision again that puts her needs and wants first. So I grieve, but I am free.

  • @kathyjustice1308 says:

    I want to see that movie. Yes vulnerable narcissists are complicated. It’s really like having a 3 yr old who wants all your attention. I was thinking about baiting and it’s not always clear with a vulnerable narcissist. Between the gaslighting, demands for attention, need to control, attempts to isolate, manipulations, irritability and yes episodes of rage; there are times that I have experienced when I try to do something I enjoy and there’s a hover with nonstop comments about how I’m not doing things right, he can do it better. It’s like he needs attention. But it’s very insidious. But then he asks for my help and wants to fix the light in the kitchen or takes care of the dogs etc. I have learned that you can never let your guard down with any narcissist because that’s usually when the contempt shows. I’m not sure I could make it without your videos. I’m going to try reading some more books, which helps me. The neighbors love him because he gives them fishing equipment or watches their house when they are away.

    • @LibbyB622 says:

      Exactly! A 3-year-old. With my mom, it was as if a 3-year-old was being held hostage by a sadistic demon. But in the same body. The instant you start to pity the 3-year-old, the demon comes out and attacks you.

    • @flightmama3191 says:

      ❤🎉❤ Magnificent gratitude beautiful SOUL, You are seeing the TRUTH, IT ONLY GETS WORSE. I finally left…. yippee whoooooo

  • @danielforlano says:

    It’s the way the narc slides into the center of attention, taking so much space and squashing any chance of genuine gentle affection that robs us all.

  • @delyseonduty says:

    I was groomed by a grandiose narcissist for years. I got away. I dated a vulnerable narcissist not even a year, and it has been the most challenging relationship I’ve ever had to step away from.

    • @brendarudman8806 says:

      Were you held agáinst your will?
      Are you disabled in any way?
      How does one groom a functioning adult?

    • @tealeafs3824 says:

      Same. The grandiose narc makes you feel hopeless while vulnerable one makes you go insane. At times I wonder if there is a link between covert narcissism and their spouses that commit su icide.

  • @mariandiaz6177 says:

    “We’re always in purgatory in these relationships.” Best description ever. ty!

  • @karengranju says:

    I can’t wait to watch it. My 92 year old mom is a real piece of work. Manipulated people her whole life, hooks onto folks, and I stayed out of her orbit most of my life. Pulling myself out of her clutch was a huge achievement in my 20s, and the toxicity in her life, volcanic.

    • @jeanie5074 says:

      @@karengranju how did the rest of her family reacted or acted around her?

    • @rinskeraphael8755 says:

      ❤🥰wel done.

    • @shar0n4321 says:

      Wow! Even at 92 your mom is still clutching on to her old ways? I was hoping narcs eventually grow out of their shot and have some semblance of self-awareness but no, time and time again it seems change never happens with them…you must be a very strong individual to have figured out early in time to get the hell away from your toxic parent. Bravo!

    • @karengranju says:

      @@jeanie5074 she was in constant conflict with her sisters who were Southern Baptists, and they were abusive too. My grandmother who everyone loved tried to keep everyone happy, bless her soul, and shoved her feelings down deep. We all tried to maintain as much as possible, but family looked at my mom like she was embarrassing for me and I felt pitied. She was histrionic if she didn’t get her way. Married a man just like her and damned myself for 23 years. Then I started over at 50, and I rebuilt my life. It was only through extensive counseling for decades that I learned to stay away from family, actually the church I found for her told me to bloom where I was and not return to be a caretaker.

    • @karengranju says:

      @@shar0n4321 She interfered with my Dads estate when he died, as they had been divorced 50 years. She called attorneys I had hired and she also walked into facilities telling everyone she was his wife at 86 years old. They actually seemed relieved to stop fighting after 50 years, but she wanted part of his estate she said for child support. He died and she remarried at 88 years old and then we buried him. It’s exhausting.

  • @MrEffdot says:

    I’ve watched ‘A Real Pain’ a couple of times, and thought a lot about my parents while watching it. It’s crystal clear to me now why so much of the movie is familiar even though on the surface it’s outside of my experience. Thank you for connecting the dots, Dr. Ramani.

  • @CrashBandiscoot says:

    I just Googled this. Jesse Eisenberg did it ALL. It’s based on a true story about his real family members and experiences. He directed it and everything. I can’t wait to see it

  • @KASanDiego04 says:

    Wow! I just had a real light bulb moment listening to you describe vulnerable narcissism. I know this person. I didn’t realize that this set of behaviors had a name.

    • @cmwyeye1214 says:

      I’m scared most people will not be able to see the neuance she is trying to explain, did you watch this movie?

  • @mnoelle1464 says:

    When you watch the movie, notice how many times Benji deflects immediately when he senses shame. He has an outburst to make people feel bad, he says stuff about his cousin he shouldn’t say to the group, he tried to tell the tour guide how to do his job, he sobs out loud, throws fits. Non-stop drama. Non-stop need for attention. Non-stop disregard for anyone else’s feelings. Non-stop roller coaster of emotions. He makes his cousin feel constantly baffled and exhausted. How do vulnerable narcissists have so much energy to get at people so relentlessly? Oh, maybe because they don’t spend any energy thinking about others feelings or wants/needs, they only think of themselves and their image. Thanks for the recommendation! Hope this wins lots of awards.

  • @zacblake9249 says:

    10:12 — Dr Ramani, I saw this at the New York Film Festival last year and the speech that Eisenberg gives to the group of people he’s having dinner with, who are eaual parts disgusted, appalled, but somehow fascinated by Benji, mirrors what you say. When he goes about it, his voice is so close to cracking, you really get the mixed emotions that are happening inside and a lived history that he and his cousin share. And yes — that last scene was brilliant and made the movie. Thank you as always for your insights into narcissism and using fiction as a means to understanding it.

  • @Deana-e5l says:

    Just got out of relationship with vulnerable narcissist. Non stop drama. Non stop triggered or offended by something. It never ends. At the same time he offends me and not even notices it. He also can be loving, caring, funny, good friend when he wants to. And yes, I can see his struggle. He gets sad after arguments. He does therapy. And it breaks my heart. How exhausting it is. I never felt guilty, always knew that its about him. But still it’s so exhausting. Its so complicated, its not that easy. Just hope that I will have strength not to go back.

    • @alliwarwick5590 says:

      @@Deana-e5l I went back at least 20 times. Said he needed help….never worked on himself. Be kind to yourself and listen to your gut feeling and not his promises. so sad…

    • @Deana-e5l says:

      @@alliwarwick5590 I understand everything. I know that love is one thing and his behavior is another. Its not my problem to fix. I made hundred attempts to get to him. Just so so sad.

    • @michelled5137 says:

      I went back consistently for 24 years to keep the family together for my three children. We are all in therapy now except for my Ex, who is pretending to be super happy living with his new girlfriend and ignoring us all.

    • @alliwarwick5590 says:

      @@michelled5137 I don’t actually “like” this but when they find a replacement it’s the end….and hopefully a new beginning for you!

    • @BognaZone says:

      The one I knew would NEVER be in therapy. He just spent all his energy in screaming at me.

  • @Vanessa-xn1bk says:

    Thank you Dr Ramani. I’m always looking for movies with this context.

  • @carmelitaherazo5706 says:

    Thank you Dr. Ramani. I had anxiety throughout the whole movie. I’m entrenched with a narc husband who can embodied a vulnerable narc to a tea. I’m planning my escape in the near future because I know I don’t want to continue to fix his messes. He needs to suffer the consequences of his actions. I’m working on not feeling responsible if he completely collapses.

    • @flightmama3191 says:

      ❤🎉❤Good luck and expect the very worst, I was kicked out after 42 years married, he’s blaming me of course and he killed my chickens and then my cat…. I’m away 10 months, but still married unfortunately… it’s crazy expensive to get rid of these crazies 🎉❤🎉Stay strong the beginning of the leaving is the WORST, BUT IT GETS BETTER ❤❤❤

  • @jessif. says:

    Dr. Ramani, I want to say how refreshing it is to watch someone speak to camera for 10 minutes with minimal (or perhaps zero) cuts. Some people have a cut after every sentence! Yours is a more natural flow, and still leaves out “umm’s” and “uhhh’s”. I also like your interesting yet calming background. Keep up the good work.

  • @consideritalljoy7960 says:

    “That’s not a trauma bond, that’s wisdom” … navigating those nuances. Thank you!

  • @vanessarodriguez4259 says:

    I just saw the movie! You are spot on. People usually don’t see how deep problems go with a vulnerable narcissist right away. It takes the group a while to catch on. Benji definitely exhibits the behavior of a vulnerable narcissist. Great movie, and I do love the subtlety and nuance of the relationship between the cousins and the relationships that develop between them and the other characters as the movie goes along. Thank you for the recommendation. Great movie and great example of the complexities of these types of relationships and why you can’t always “just leave” them.💙👍

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