The Elizabeth Holmes Documentary Made Me Question My Own Empathy
Dr. Ramani unpacks the Elizabeth Holmes movie “You Can See Everything" and confronts how her own empathy might be one of the most dangerous things she has.
Find out how empathy can become a trap.
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I do think that a loooot of people project their goodness and decency onto narcs, it’s a big problem I think. (To be clear, empathy is not a problem, but people seeing goodness where there is none is likely why so many narcs get away with so much).
Agree
@Luckymillion96me too
I think its a survival technique too for some.
@priyanshisingh9589very much so!! I realized it was a survival technique for me and when I notice I’m being too empathic I pull back and it turns people mad!
“Seeing goodness where there is none…” struck me! Wow! Thank you!
the fact that she bamboozled so many powerful people…..people who aren’t normally empathetic to the plight of others…speaks volumes of her abilities.
thanks for sharing your experience with us.
I have no empathy for her but I have empathy for her children because she had her children for sympathy during her trial.
They do have a child for ATTENTION I’ve witnessed that
100%
I absolutely agree!
Yes. This is exactly what I was thinking through the whole movie. Those kids should be taken away from their dangerously insane parents. I’m honestly worried for their safety because their father keeps guns in the house and on him at all times. Not to mention that he has no parental instincts, clearly. He doesn’t seem parental, just sick and dangerous.
My Empathy to see the good in my Narc Ex was clouded by ‘hope’ and ‘Trauma-Bonding’ which kept me addicted to a relationship that was never going to change and go anywhere. I eventually decided I was not going to spend the next 10 or 20 years like this. 🍒
I’ve just reached this place. Had no idea what a trauma bond was…thank god for some of the tools that are helping me get thru this storm.
If you feel dazed, confused or disoriented, that is your sign to RUN. It doesn’t matter if they’re a narcissist or a psychopath or neither – they’re NO GOOD FOR YOU.
This is powerfull 😍😍😍😍has to be a mantra for every people …are body knows the truth ❤️🙏🏻
😭 Thx
Let’s face it…the world LOVES a good psychopath and narcissist. They admire them, and want to be like them. So in this game of constant reward and admiration, these monsters are inescapable
“Empathy might be the most dangerous thing I have” – so true and so often ignored or misplaced!!!
I once read something that stuck with me, although I struggle to practice it: “Never let your empathy get in the way of someone’s karma.”
I like that
Whoa. I needed to read that.
It reminds me of Margaery Tyrell in Game of Thrones. She was highly emphatic but she’s able to weaponize it. It’s like different kind of knowledge.
I love that.
Wowza! I’m trying to wrap my head around that. I don’t know what to say. I think I feel liberated reading that.
planetclay left a comment that says a lot! She bamboozled a LOT of people who don’t normally have empathy. Narc’s have a way of pulling you in that causes one to literally lose their ability to think clearly.
She bamboozled old straight white men who fell for her blonde, blue-eyed pretty privilege and calculated vulnerability. O, and all of that was accelerated by greed.
The narcissist hacked our system and the back door of entrance is empathy
Every good quality, especially empathy, gets weaponized by abusers.
Empathy without boundaries and reciprocity is just enabling.
That’s where it becomes dangerous and exploitatable.
@maggie6152 this is very true, but mostly theoretically
Ability to rein in one’s empathy is a separate skill, not easily mastered
I think it amounts to preventing oneself to even allow it in a process of dealing with a narc
For naturally born empaths it feels like diminishing yourself,
and it is truly disorienting as Dr R says
Not a good state of mind when rough decision to be made
Making correct session
Wow! This content really resonated with me. I’m 70 years old and I didn’t realize just how dangerous my empathy was to me until I was around 65 years old. I think instinctively I realized that when I was around 50 years old so started really protecting myself but still get “duped” occasionally. Thanks for sharing this. 😊
That is why Dr.Ramani is a genius.
She used a perfect simile in min 6:45″Your empathy becomes sort of like an autoimmune process”.
Maybe thats what is at the core of autoimmune issues!!! Eye opening!
You are the sword of truth. Soo needed and appreciated. Love 💕 you Dr Ramani.
I stood up to get out of my seat and completely forgot it was on a raised stair, tripped, and completely fell on knee/face… that’s how disoriented I was after watching this for 3 hours without a break (I didn’t leave my seat).
Garnering empathy for her, her children and her next ‘invention’ is probably why she wanted to make this film…
My empathy makes me vulnerable too, it’s dangerous 😭😭
Empathy does not make you are anyone else vulnerable. Credulity is the problem. Being “nice” is the problem.
Elizabeth Holmes fully understands the empathy that other people have and absolutely uses it to her advantage. The only thing about her that I notice when I see her interviews etc is that she has no heart. There is a saying, something along the lines, that the smartest thing the devil could do if we were faced with him is to make us feel sorry for him.
I disagree. I think she’s very autistic and she’s not fully aware of things that most of us take for granted. I also think she’s very delusional. I’m definitely certain that she’s also manipulating with empathy to some degree. But have you seen the documentary yet?
The smartest thing the devil could do if we met him is to make us feel sorry for him ….omfg
Let’s feel empathy for Holmes’ children growing up with two very troubled, manipulative and narcissistic parents. That empathy is well placed.
Totally agree.